Superman & Lois Offically Not Set On Earth Prime And Not Connected To Other Arrowverse Shows.

I apologize if I misread and/or confused posts.I'll be honest,I got some not great medical news yesterday(nothing life threating but still serious with a unpleasent treatment) that put me on edge(I even snapped at my primary doctor today on the phone and I've never raised my voice to him before today in the 30 years he's known me). so I very easily could of confused posts and who was responding to who and what.

Again I apologize to Kiwi,Brierrose and everyone on the board if i screwed up.I'm feeling really stupid right now.

I apologize if I misread and/or confused posts.I'll be honest,I got some not great medical news yesterday(nothing life threating but still serious with a unpleasent treatment) that put me on edge(I even snapped at my primary doctor today on the phone and I've never raised my voice to him before today in the 30 years he's known me). so I very easily could of confused posts and who was responding to who and what.

Again I apologize to Kiwi,Brierrose and everyone on the board if i screwed up.I'm feeling really stupid right now.

No apology required to me. I hope the unpleasant treatment goes quickly and is successful.

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I apologize if I misread and/or confused posts.I'll be honest,I got some not great medical news yesterday(nothing life threating but still serious with a unpleasent treatment) that put me on edge(I even snapped at my primary doctor today on the phone and I've never raised my voice to him before today in the 30 years he's known me). so I very easily could of confused posts and who was responding to who and what.

Again I apologize to Kiwi,Brierrose and everyone on the board if i screwed up.I'm feeling really stupid right now.

muckle9999

Oh no. We must have you at your best and hoping that you beat this health issue. So, I am sending you many Hail Mary's to help speed up the healing process.

July 20,1969 "Oh My God" "The Americans Are On The Moon"

Sweet Jane; Lou Reed And The Velvet Underground

American Land: Bruce Springsteen: London Calling

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I apologize if I misread and/or confused posts.I'll be honest,I got some not great medical news yesterday(nothing life threating but still serious with a unpleasent treatment) that put me on edge(I even snapped at my primary doctor today on the phone and I've never raised my voice to him before today in the 30 years he's known me). so I very easily could of confused posts and who was responding to who and what.

Again I apologize to Kiwi,Brierrose and everyone on the board if i screwed up.I'm feeling really stupid right now.

muckle9999

Oh no. We must have you at your best and hoping that you beat this health issue. So, I am sending you many Hail Mary's to help speed up the healing process.

July 20,1969 "Oh My God" "The Americans Are On The Moon"

Sweet Jane; Lou Reed And The Velvet Underground

American Land: Bruce Springsteen: London Calling

Thanks

Gotham Knights and the In development Justice U set on S & L Earth.The end of the Arrowverse.Long live the Superverse?Comments from David Ramsey at convention.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHhJQRMl3XY

Todd Helbing Has Disappointing News For Future Arrowverse Crossovers - Exclusive

https://www.looper.com/928118/todd-helbing-has-disappointing-news-for-future-arrowverse-crossovers-exclusive/?utm_campaign=clip

I didn't want to start a new thread for this but at a convention last weekend Elizabeth Tulloch revealed that Melissa Benoist still wants to make an appearance on Superman & Lois.If Melissa herself makes a future comment or this were to happen,I would make a new thread.

https://www.cbr.com/supergirl-melissa-benoist-wants-appear-superman-and-lois/

Supergirl Star Melissa Benoist Wants to Appear on Superman & Lois

BY LEE FREITAG
PUBLISHED 39 MINUTES AGO

Elizabeth Tulloch reveals that Melissa Benoist is reportedly open to returning as Supergirl in the Arrowverse-adjacent Superman and Lois.



Superman and Lois star Elizabeth Tulloch has revealed that Melissa Benoist wants to return as Supergirl in the superhero drama series.

The actor, who currently portrays Lois Lane on The CW series, recently attended Fan Expo Canada 2022 with her co-star Tyler Hoechlin, who portrays the titular Man of Steel. The actors were asked to respond to a rumor that had been circulating that claimed Benoist would be appearing in the upcoming third season of Superman and Lois. "We have not heard that rumor about her coming on the show," Tulloch said. "She has expressed interest to me in doing it, and I know that we would love to work with her again and Grant [Gustin] and everyone else. I just don't know...ever since we started the show, COVID has been a reality which is why we haven't done any of the crossovers or anything like that, so we just can't speak to whether or not that's feasible."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DKScHudEDyg

Benoist played Kara Danvers/Supergirl in all six seasons of Supergirl, which aired from 2015 to 2021, as well as in several crossover appearances on The Flash and other Arrowverse series. If Benoist did appear on Superman and Lois there is a chance that she would be playing an entirely new version of the Girl of Steel since the Season 2 finale of Superman and Lois established that the DC series was set in its own world, separate from Earth-Prime which is Benoist's Supergirl, Grant Gustin's The Flash and the Legends of Tomorrow. Showrunner Todd Helbing explained the decision to not set Superman and Lois on Earth-Prime was done to allow the creative team the opportunity to put their "own stamp on the Superman property."

Supergirl Would Be Reinvented for Superman and Lois

Superman and Lois being set on its own Earth will allow the creatives to drastically reinvent the Girl of Steel, which is something that Helbing is excited to tackle should the opportunity present itself. "Yeah, it would not be the Supergirl from the Arrowverse, it would be our version so we would invent a new backstory for her," Helbing explained. "The same way that we did with Lucy [Lane], General Lane, and John Diggle, the same way with John Diggle" He continued, "They may be their doppelganger and they may look exactly the same. But it would be a completely different story."

Helbing, Tulloch, Hoechlin and the rest of the cast and crew are currently in the midst of pre-production of Superman and Lois Season 3, which will begin filming this September. One cast member who will not be returning is Jordan Elsass, who departed the DC series after two seasons in Aug. 2022. Warner Bros. Television stated that the actor had left "due to personal reasons" and that the role of Jonathan Kent would be recast. Elsass later explained that he stepped away from the popular show to focus on his mental health. "I know that I was pumped for Season 3, for sure, but what are you going to do? Anyway, mental health is definitely 100-percent priority. It’s pinnacle. It’s got to take precedence," Elsass said in a video message to a fan.

Superman and Lois Season 3 will premiere on The CW in 2023.


https://screenrant.com/superman-lois-melissa-benoist-supergirl-appearance-interest/?utm_content=buffer4488f&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_source=SR-TW&utm_campaign=SR-TW

Supergirl's Melissa Benoist Wants To Guest On Superman & Lois, Says Star

BY ANDY BEHBAKHT

Supergirl actress Melissa Benoist is still game to make a guest appearance on The CW's Superman & Lois, says Lois Lane star Bitsie Tulloch.



According to Bitsie Tulloch, who plays Lois Lane on The CW series Superman & Lois, Supergirl star Melissa Benoist is open to making a guest appearance on the show. Before the global pandemic struck the world, The CW's Arrowverse franchise was bigger than ever, with more than five shows running at the time. After the Crisis on Infinite Earths storyline happened in 2020, the Arrowverse got a soft reboot while bringing all of the ongoing DC TV shows on the network together in one shared universe, known as Earth-Prime.

While Superman & Lois was initially conceived as a Supergirl spinoff, it was established that both shows took place in the same world as the other Arrowverse dramas. However, once Tyler Hoechlin and Tulloch's offshoot series kicked off, Superman & Lois season 1 didn't refer to any of the other Justice League heroes. Most importantly, it ignored Kara Zor-El herself. Supergirl, being one of Clark Kent's last remaining blood relatives, never made any appearances, and the lack of mentions made fans question what was going on. It wasn't until the season 2 finale that the writers dropped a plot twist by confirming that despite taking place in the Arrowverse franchise, Superman & Lois isn't set on Earth-Prime, but rather an undesignated Earth in its Multiverse.

As Superman & Lois continues with a new continuity, it still begs the question about Supergirl and whether Benoist, who starred as the heroine for 6 seasons, will ever appear on the show. At this year's Fan Expo Canada (via Brief Take), Hoechlin and Tulloch were asked by a fan about Benoist's Supergirl and if there are any plans to have Kara appear in Superman & Lois. While Hoechlin praised his TV cousin, Tulloch revealed something interesting about Benoist:

"We have not heard that rumor about her coming on the show. She has expressed interest to me in doing it, and I know that we would love to work with her again and Grant [Gustin] and everyone else. I just don't know...ever since we started the show, COVID has been a reality which is why we haven't done any of the crossovers or anything like that, so we just can't speak to whether or not that's feasible."



Following the Superman & Lois season 2 finale, showrunner Todd Helbing confirmed in numerous interviews that if Kara were to show up one day, it would be a new take on the Girl of Steel with a different backstory. However, Helbing never specified if that meant another actress would be cast or if they left the door open for Benoist to show up as that world's Supergirl. While David Ramsey's John Diggle appeared in the Superman & Lois season 2 finale, the showrunner clarified that this take on the Arrow veteran doesn't have the exact same history as the Earth-Prime counterpart. So far, there has been no official indication that Superman & Lois season 3 will feature Supergirl in any capacity, as production won't start until next week.

If the Superman & Lois team hopes to have Benoist appear as Kara, it would have to be in the foreseeable future as the Supergirl star is set to headline her own HBO Max series, The Girls on the Bus. It's also worth taking The CW's new owner into account as the Arrowverse brand could very well be finished within the next 2-3 years. The Flash season 9 will be the show's last, and given the network's shake-up after Nexstar bought 75% ownership, there is no indication if Superman & Lois, Stargirl, and the upcoming Gotham Knights series will even get renewed for the 2023-2024 TV season. Hopefully, Superman & Lois is on the air long enough to make it possible for Benoist to guest as Supergirl at least once, even if it's as a new iteration of her Arrowverse character.


I remember Bitsy revealed Melissa wanted to appear back when Superman & Lois was launching.

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I didn't want to start a new thread for this but at a convention last weekend Elizabeth Tulloch revealed that Melissa Benoist still wants to make an appearance on Superman & Lois.If Melissa herself makes a future comment or this were to happen,I would make a new thread.

https://www.cbr.com/supergirl-melissa-benoist-wants-appear-superman-and-lois/

Thanks for the info. From what I read this looks like nothing more then a rumor which Elizabeth Tulloch didn't even know about. She said that Melissa had some interest appearing on the show which means nothing. In a way I would like to see her as supergirl but not on that show. I would prefer she go on STARGIRL which kicks off their third season tonight. Be there or be square.

July 20,1969 "Oh My God" "The Americans Are On The Moon"

Rita Hayworth: Higher and Higher

The Everly Brothers: Bye Bye Love

The Velvet Underground: Sweet Jane

No just no! I really hope this is just Bitsy’s desire to work with Melissa again and not that she thinks Helbing’s ideas are good. This from Helbing is why.

Superman and Lois being set on its own Earth will allow the creatives to drastically reinvent the Girl of Steel, which is something that Helbing is excited to tackle should the opportunity present itself. "Yeah, it would not be the Supergirl from the Arrowverse, it would be our version so we would invent a new backstory for her," Helbing explained. "The same way that we did with Lucy [Lane], General Lane, and John Diggle, the same way with John Diggle" He continued, "They may be their doppelganger and they may look exactly the same. But it would be a completely different story."

What they did with Lucy Lane wasn’t cool IMO and I wouldn’t want them to have the opportunity to do the same with Kara, note the word “drastically” is used. I don’t trust the S&L showrunners one bit to in anyway honor the shows that made it possible. The petty part of me continues to hope S&L gets canceled after season 3 and Melissa is unavailable due to other comments.

I'm sort of the same mind.While I still like Superman & Lois(but hate cutting the ties to the Arroweverse),I would rather Supergirl appear on Stargirl(will be watching the season 3 premiere in about a hour and half) or in this upcoming final season of The Flash.The Flash would be my top choice right now given her friendship with Barry.

With that said,I wouldn't not watch if Melissa appeared on Superman & Lois but unless it was Earth Prime Supergirl ending up on the S & L Earth(like Barry did in Season 1 of Supergirl),I would rather a recast if S & L did its own version of Kara like with Sam and Morgan Edge.I didn't like what was done with Lucy either.Watching the same actors play a different version of their characters when we were sold S & L was going to be on Earth Prime makes them feel like pod people to me still and that includes Superman & Lois themselves.Recasting makes it easier for me to buy them as different versions of the characters.

Thought this was interesting and tangentially related to Supergirl.

https://ew.com/tv/titans-showrunner-titus-welliver-lex-luthor/

Exclusive

Titans showrunner previews Titus Welliver's arrival as Lex Luthor

It turns out the Bosch star is a huge fan of DC Comics, and barely had to be convinced to play the infamous supervillain.

By Christian Holub
September 11, 2022

Casting Titus Welliver in Titans was not a hard sell. Though best-known for playing the hard-nosed titular detective on Bosch, Welliver is actually a big comics fan — as Titans showrunner Greg Walker discovered when he called the actor to pitch him on playing Lex Luthor.

"You usually have to do this whole dog-and-pony show to get an actor to do the show," Walker tells EW over Zoom. "But when I called to kind of lure him in, I could barely get a word in. We were talking on the phone and he was just walking through his library, telling me about all his Wolfman/Perez Titans editions. He's a giant, giant fan. He'd watched every episode of the show, and could tell me about certain stories, certain shots. It was the most unexpected call I've ever had."



Welliver's Luthor, who you can see in a first-look photo above, poses an interesting challenge for the Titans. Despite being one of the most infamous supervillains in the DC canon, he's still just human. His threat is intellectual and psychological.

"He has a very sensitive, thoughtful approach to evil and power. You know what he's done, what he's capable of doing, except like many of those people, he's personable. He doesn't have a cat on his lap. Yeah. He's curious, which I think is very interesting about his character. He wants to know about people and what makes them tick, and how they're different from him. He sees the world through the lens both of his own power and his own inadequacy, and tries to compensate for both."

Luthor is particularly threatening for Superboy. Conner (Joshua Orpin) was created from a combination of Superman's DNA with Luthor's. This season, Conner will finally have to reckon with what that means.

"We're really going deeper in all these characters and shaking them up," Walker says. "What shakes Conner up is an identity story. He's explored his Superman self, but he has not really explored his Lex self. What does that mean when you do? What happens when you give that self the keys to the car? Does it start driving the wrong way at rush hour 100 miles an hour?"

Check out the first look photo above. Titans season 4 premieres on HBO Max this November.


Jon Cryer made a fun little tweet about starting the bearded Lex Luthor trend.lol

Personally,I think this is great casting and as a Titans watcher looking forward to this Superboy storyline with Lex in Titans Season 4.